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PostSubject: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:57 am

Hello there people

This is a debate think should make a difference in Asia especially.

I have been giving this subject much thought. When I heard that in the island of Hainan. The Male to female ratio in the population is not very "healthy" in the case where males outnumber the females.

And then I heard from other sources that other Asian countries especially in Chinese communities this population will be pretty serious in the future.

Then when I asked my elders in the family, the cause was the obsession with the "surname" and also thus the favourism of the male gender that has been with us for millienium.

So I was proposing that both genders to be equally treated in marriage in regards to the surnames.

My proposal is that according to my idea, the surname of both parents not just only the father can be given to the children of the couple.

Usually in most families I think, all the children to one couple all take the surname of the father or mother in some case.

Why not some children of the same couple take on the mother surname too?

Discuss this. This idea could give the girls a more fair treatment?

Guys and Girls let this debate begin. But no War of the Genders here. This debate should help bring the population back into balance.
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:47 pm

Interesting subject.

I am not from Asia but I am an Asian. But I think this last name thingy might solve some problems and perhaps put the gender wars to an end


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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:05 pm

Men have always treated Women as lower class, i know i am no position to decide on a change but i think its just not fair at all. There is nothing wrong with women apart from not having men body parts and not being as rough. Women are Equal to Men. Thats a fact.
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:51 pm

I think its a fair idea. Why should all the children take only the father's surname. It's like it's his children only. Where's the mummy involvement in this? She carried the children for 9 whole month and there's not a recognizance for the mother?
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:59 pm

Thats an excellent point there, but on the otherhand, confusion may arouse around this child. Say if he had a sibling. Fathers Suranme is Wu and Mothers name was Li. The Child might be called Maxx Wu while his sibling may be called Roxanne Li. It may do harm for ID checks in the future as the child could claim a second surname.
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:02 pm

But DNA checks would say that Roxanne and Maxx are siblings... there's no lying.

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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:12 pm

Ahh never thought of that. Good point. What im saying is a confusion maybe in a more public area such as work or school that confusion may arouse. Though i think the children should take the surname from one parent - no matter which one. I guess parents will have to work something out then.
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:35 pm

yeah

Becos the children are the products of the parents... Mother and Father....

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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:19 pm

Well when I meant the gender ratio is not healthy is becos each species depending on which gender is the dominant one needs to have a good number of each member to ensure that the species is healthy.

Like say in humans becos the male is pretty dominant so the number of males should be lower than the females.

Now currently the males outnumber the females in places like China and especially Hainan Island. I once saw a photo of a classroom of kids... I dun have pic now. But class has only 2 or 3 girls.

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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:22 pm

but altogether in the whole world right now its actually suprisingly healthy but still not equally balanced. The Male Female ratio would be - 49:51. Females dominating currently.
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:26 pm

That's healthy if you combine the Western world and Asia.etc

But look here...

Thursday, October 08, 2009

China's Gender Imbalance Leaves 30 Million Men Without Wives
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Chinese students begin classes in Nan Jie Cun, China on Aug. 24. Because of traditional Chinese preference for sons, China faces a severe gender gap.
By Dana Lewis
Every weekend in Shanghai's 'People's Park Number Five,' they come — mothers, fathers, grandparents — all holding pictures and posters of young Chinese men and women who are looking for love.
Parental matchmaking isn't easy, according to one man who tells FOX News that he's been shopping for a wife for his 33-year-old wife six months.
His pitch to other parents is short and simple. "Got a home. Good looking. Good salary," reads his poster.
Because of China's one child policy to control its ever expanding population — now numbering 1.3 billion people — there has been a lopsided explosion of young boys. It's a cavernous gender gap that is unprecedented worldwide.
The ratio is up to 130 boys to every one hundred girls in some areas of China.
Traditional preferences for a son means that many women abort their baby if an early term sonogram shows it's a girl.
In the next 20 years, it's estimated that 30 million Chinese men won't be able to find wives.
For mothers and fathers who visit the "People's Park" every weekend there's a lot more to it than just finding love for their kids.
There's a tradition in China of the young looking after the old. The government hasn't paid pensions and provided health care for most Chinese. So many parents' social security is on the line.
In China's big cities, finding Mr. or Miss Right is easier. Many women migrate from small town China to Beijing or Shanghai to find work and marriage.
And because more and more women are working, attitudes among parents who once only wanted boys are changing.
"More than 50 percent of the population will be in the cities. So that means this will be very strong change of traditions, behaviour of couples, or women, including this kind of son preference," Bernard Coquelin, from the U.N. Population Fund told FOX News.
The pressure is on for moms and dads in peoples park number 5, and across the country. The Chinese lonely hearts club is the biggest world wide.

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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:30 pm

thats pretty sad, alot of chinese males will remain bachelors for the rest of their life Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:35 pm

That's only the tip of the iceberg

There is an old saying that "Wars are caused by sexually unsatisfied men...."

That will meant I guess, unsatisfied men tend to be more aggressive so we could see a rise in crime rates and more.

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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:03 pm

One of them being Rape - but i think the only solution at this point is to produce more females than men for now.
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:52 pm

The last name or surname thingy I proposed so change the way guys and girls are seen..

If guys can pass on the surname so can the girls... ^^ My forementioned ideas should work pretty well.

But is there a problem to that?

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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:02 pm

Yes there will be - the argument what most parents are going to fight over. Which parent should the child be named after. If they come to an agreement of course. But if not things could get a bit nasty.
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:06 pm

Well that's a couple matter but that will also change the attitude of males towards girls.....

This 5000 year old mindset of guys spreading the family name has got to end...... It's caused the deaths of many female infants in the past and present.

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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:11 pm

not only that - if this continues, maybe females will look upon males as violent and filthy animals and will not reproduce - thus ending human population??
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:33 pm

Exactly.

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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:46 pm

Guess that we have to treat these ladies with respect then.
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:17 pm

I can respect the decision that woman can pursue the same things as men but they must remember to fulfill their womanly duties.

Both genders really need to respect the needs of each other and then cooperate.

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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:37 pm

Yup, different groups of people have different needs, hope someone sees into this. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:12 pm

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Actually I meant needs of both genders...

For example is the sex desires of both.

Females do not desire sex so much unlike males who think of sex every 30 secs. So females have to give in a bit. But however it doesn't mean that guys can do whatever they want. If the girl doesn't want it dun force it on her. And at the same time, if the guy is doing something that's too release the excess steam, girl need to understand her guy's needs as long as he's not having an affair that is.

But I think this surname thing will put women and men as equals as in the way that girls and boys can continue the line regardless of gender or even make the surname obsession disappear for the good of all mankind.

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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:58 pm

REBEL wrote:
not only that - if this continues, maybe females will look upon males as violent and filthy animals and will not reproduce - thus ending human population??

It's happening already. More women today are ignoring their biological clocks and remaining single or marry pretty late. The reason being that of what REBEL has mentioned. Also becos women were not treated well in the past which led to the rise of feminism which I view it as a man-hating philosophy when put to the extreme...

Actually I think the obsession with the surname has got to end. I can guarantee if there is no such obsession from the start, China would not have this gender ratio issue or it shouldn't be a problem at all.

But now there is the gender ration problem, I believe it's time to drop the obsession or face... a warring Asia?
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PostSubject: Re: Solution to Male to Female ratio in Asian Population   Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:00 pm

Asia is a volatile place but the gender ratio issue is only in some Chinese communities. Why do you say warring Asia? Maybe's warring China?

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